DEBATE
" Physical identity" for Dalit women
Dr. R.K. NIMBLE BAUDH, 6102/8. SECTOR D-6, VASANT KUNG, NEW DELHI - 110 070
This
refers to "Physical identity for Dalits: Dilemma of a Ambedkarite woman" by
Sister Rajshree C. Dange (DV Jan.16, 2005 p.22).
The Bahujan philosophy does
not discriminate on the basis of sex, colour, caste, creed or place. It is
Hinduism which does it. A married female is still made
a slave by imposing on her the sindur, bindi, bangles, mangalsutras and ornaments.
No married man is supposed to carry any symbol and is thus made free and
independent. The men carry the identification of a red thread on
right wrist, tilak on forehead,
janew and choti to prove themselves staunch Hindu. I suggest choti on forehead
and blue thread on left wrist to give respect and reverence to our ancestors.
We must muster courage and conviction to confront the enemy. He will be rendered
pale and feel castrated. We must divide the foe from the friend to polarise
and unite the Moolniwasi Bahujan. This is not identification of a particular
caste
or religion. It is a common identification of the ideology of Bahujans.
Who is real Ambedkarite ?
D.L.
Pusekar C/o Dr. Ambedkar Co.Op Credit Society, Suvidha Complex, Vasco-da-Gama,
Goa - 403 802
Sister Rajshree Dange's communication (DV Jan.16,
2005 p.22) is impressive. Why the Ambedkarites are imitating Manuwadis?
In
Budhist literature, nowhere
it asks
the Budhist woman to have mangalsutra or apply sindhur. Only those who
adopt the 22 Oaths given by Dr. Ambedkar on Oct.14, 1956 are
Ambedkarites. So all
Dalits cannot be called Ambedkarites. An Ambedkarite is not a Hindu.
In Goa, Budhists do not observe any Hindu festival. I am not a Hindu.
Some Dalits who are afraid of Hindu nazis have stopped visiting my house.
DV
conducted a
big Debate which reached only educated Dalits. Dalits still do not know
what is Ambedkarism. That is why they imitate Hindus. DV has said several
times "Dalits
are not Hindu". Sister Dange has started a new Debate.
Sikhs: only physically separate but mentally Hindu
Gurnam Singh muktsar, 2 - Bhagat Singh Nagar, b/h Bus Stand, Muktsar
- 252 026
The "Dilemma of an Ambedkarite woman" by
Sister Rajshree fascinated me. Her question about separate physical
identity for Ambedkarites
and
Budhists is a sincere one. She talks of separate identity of Sikhs,
Muslims and Christians.
Actually she wants to solve the problem of separate identity of Ambedkarites
and Budhists who stand on the opposite side of Hindus.
No doubt Sikhs
have a separate identity but mentally they are with the Hindus.
So one who wants our identity different from the Hindu
must be
also be separate
from the Hindu in all walks of life ÑÊphysically and mentally.
Muslims may have totally different identity but they are not revolutionary
as directed
by the Quran. The Sikhs have a separate physical identity but mentally
they are Hindu. Rajshree says she is against imitating the Hindu women
hence she
does
not apply sindhur or use mangalsutra. That means she is a genuine Ambedkarite
and Budhist. Brave woman.
Women alone can decide
Pramod
meshram, 1/31 - Kalidas Marg, Behind A.K. Building, Freeganj, Ujjai
- 456 010 Sister Rajshree Dange deserves kudos (DV Jan.16,
2005). Rarely we come across articles by women in DV and very rarely
by
Dalit,
Budhist
women
and also
on such a thought-provoking subject like "physical identity" for
Dalits. As far as women are concerned, the use of sindhur and mangalsutra
must be discussed.
It is better that women come forward to take part in this Debate.
Because women alone can decide on these subjects.
COMMUNICATION: THE CASE OF TIPU SULTAN
Brahminic historians suppressed truth in Indian history
K.S. Faiyaz Pasha, Prof. of History, 10 - Cherangal Abdul Ghani
Saheb St., Ambur, Vellore dist. - 635 802
This refers to the advt. in DV (June 16, 2003)
about the book, Tipu Sultan, by a noted historian, Dr. B. Sheikh
Ali. I glanced
through
it to ascertain
if the
reputed historian, whom I hold in high esteem, has mentioned
the role played by all the traitors and cut-throats who caused
the
downfall of Tipu Sultan
of Mysore, the great warrior of South India who fell fighting
like a tragic hero
in the fourth Anglo-Mysore war against the anti-Islamic "civilized" British
barbarians.
To my great surprise, while Prof. Sheikh Ali
states that some circumstantial evidence shows that there
was a treachery
of
a few ministers of
Tipu who were in league with the British, he has failed
to mention specifically
the name
of Dewan Poorniah, the trusted Brahmin minister of Tipu
Sultan who proved a traitor
because he betrayed the Sultan to the British. This fact
which is missing in the history textbooks is brought to
light by
Pandit Sunderlal
in
his monumental work, How India Lost her Freedom, which
was banned by the
British
Govt. because
it described the sad story of the crafty penetration of
the British barbarians - the facts which were suppressed or distorted
by
the "civilized" British
historians.
Brahmin Poornaiah's treachery: Sunderlal makes
a specific mention of the Brahmin Poornaiah, who proved
to be a superb
traitor.
When Tipu
Sultan put
some horsemen
in his charge to check the enemy's (i.e. British) advance,
he instead of engaging the British in battle, kept going
round them
in circles
and even
severely reprimanded
a detachment of his cavalry which had courageously attacked
the enemy. Alas, Tipu was not even aware that he had
been betrayed by his minister.
Tipu Sultan became a martyr to the
cause of free India. He had laid down his life defending the
country against
the British.
He was the only Indian prince who fought
the British and died in the battlefield. His heroic death paved
the way
for the
rapid expansion
of the British power
in India. That is why the British cried in joy "India
is ours".
Because the Mysore power was equal to the power of
the British in India at that time.
Sunderlal's How
India Lost her Freedom is such a wonderful book
that it inflicted intellectual terrorism
on the
British barbarians
by
bringing home to them
their misdeeds. This is honestly admitted by the
British India's Governor-General, Lord William
Bentinck, when
he said:
In many respects the Muslims surpassed
our rule, they settled in the countries which they conquered,
they
intermixed and intermarried with
the natives,
they admitted them to all privileges, the interests
and sympathies of the conquerors
and the conquered became identified. Our policy
on the contrary, has been the reverse of this Ñcold,
selfish and unfeeling.
Apart from Sunderlal's
book, it is the Dalit Vice, the voice of the
voiceless alone which
has enlightened
its
family members
about
the
treacherous
role of the Brahmin minister Poornaiah who
stabbed his master in the back Ñ a
fact which does not find a place at all in
our textbooks.
Dishonest intellectuals: But the treacherous
role of Mir Jafar, the commander in chief
of the army
of Sirajuddaula,
the Nawab
of Bengal,
in the battle
of Plassey against Robert Clive Ñ who
had already struck a deal with the traitor
Mir Jafar before the commencement of the
battle ÑÊis
there in the history textbooks. Why the conspiracy
of silence (suppression of truth
through
silence is the deadliest weapon of the intellectual
class) about the
treacherous of Poorniah against Tipu Sultan
and why the wide publicity to the conspiracy
of Mir Jafar against Sirajuddaula in the
history textbooks?
Why this double-standard in judging Indian
history?
Further, it is mentioned in the history
textbooks that Harshavardhana, the last
Hindu king
of Northern India,
before the advent of
the Muslims, died
a natural
death which is not true. The truth is that
he was assassinated by the Brahmins because
he became
a zealous Budhist.
(Material taken
from
Idol Worship vs.
God Worship by Muhammad Imran):
King Harsha's
love of Buddhism roused the ire of the Brahmins and the great
pavilion of the
assembly
was
set on fire
and an attempt
was made
by some
fanatical Brahmins
on the life of the emperor who used to
give away all his wealth down to his
robes and
jewels to
the Brahmins
and
monks and
the poor every
five years.
It is said
that five hundred Brahmins were banished
from the kingdom as a result of this
conspiracy. But this
small failure
did not
matter much to
Brahminism. In a
few years Harsha's empire was completely
broken
up.
(History of Hindu Imeprialism by Swami
Dharma Theertha).
All these bitter truths - and truth
will be bitter only Ñ which
I have mentioned here and about which
our Editor V.T. Rajshekar knows much
better than
me Ñ have mysteriously disappeared
from the history textbooks so that
the students of Indian history might
be
kept in the dark
without having
access
to the truth for ever.
All these facts
which I have presented here will
be a bitter pill for the
Hindu nazis,
the destroyers
of
Babri
Masjid.
Nevertheless truth
has to prevail
over
falsehood notwithstanding the fact
that it would raise a storm in
the country.
I am constrained to state
that perhaps no history of any country in the
world has suffered
the
casualty of truth
as much as
Indian history
at
the hands
of the Brahminical historians.
To
conclude, in the words of Chief Minister Annadurai of Tamil Nadu,
a pioneer of
the Dravidian movement:
When we
seriously think of the events which have occurred in Indian
history,
the key
to opening
the doors of
history with
a view to ushering
in drastic
changes which might to the distortion
of historical truth, could be
said to be safe
in
the hands of the Brahmins who
alone could make or mar the history of
our country.
What a tragedy for
our country when we have in our midst such
grave-diggers
of history
who are
bent
upon converting
India
into a vast "intellectual
desert".
May god save our country from
such anti-national forces.
The miracle of "caste identity"
Dr. R.K. Nimble Baudh, 6102/8,
Sector D-6,Vasant Kunj, New
Delhi - 110
070
Everybody loves his or her
caste overtly or covertly,
whether
higher-esteemed or lower-esteemed.
That
is why most of
us marry within the caste.
Allocations of ministries,
portfolios and different
departments and vital posts
are made on caste basis.
The conscious and literate castes
vote only on
that
basis.
The caste cannot
be abolished but pride of it can be overcome
by
strengthening of each
caste.
Our
Editor is right. This
means social
equality can
be achieved only by achieving
economic and educational
equality. That,
in turn, can be
obtained by sharing equal
political opportunity.
These miracles are possible only
by strengthening the
subcaste identity.
The strengthening of
subcaste identity is
a measurement
of literacy and
consciousness among
the individuals
belonging to it. Such
persons become
ambitious. The
ambitions and aspirations
compel them to unite
different subcastes
into one caste and
different castes into
a larger group i.e.
Bahujan Samaj.
Annihilation of caste: Those criticising
our Editor's
thesis of subcaste
identity are only
shirking responsibility
of
social commitment
and national development.
If the lowliest of
the low will not
be cared
and looked
after
by the
honest intellectuals
of their own subcastes,
then who
will do
so? By
strengthening
the subcaste identity
we are making the
weak, the
man in the
last
row, competent and
competitor.
A govt.
made by such alliances of deprived
castes may pass
a legislation for
promotion of intercaste
marriages,
equal
and
uniform standards
of education based
on social values
of
equality,
brotherhood
and scientific
outlook. This
will certainly
diminish the higher
caste pride and
their
casteism.
The so-called higher
caste will lose
its hold on govt.
institutions
and
will be
ready to
surrender its titles
and status of arrogance.
The
goal of "annihilation of caste" of
Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
can be achieved only if the theory
of subcaste
identity
is
followed honestly.
This
will also
ensure equal representation
and participation.
This will bring real reverence and
respect to our
freedom fighters and
Bahujan
stalwarts.
A RETORT TO RAHUL
BAJAJ
Upper caste fat
cats have no
right to
ridicule Dalits
Praful Sakya,
R.No. 216 - Survey
No.56,
Malwadi,
Wadgaon
Sheri,
Pune - 411
014
Reservation,
the moment
the subject
pops up
the entire
country thrusts
itself
into the
fire of
heated debates.
No consensus,
no alternative
model is offered Ñ if
the reservation
policy is to
be ended. The
debates
spark
off controversies
and breed conspiracy
theories. Groups
take up
positions in
favour
or against
reservation.
The argument
envelopes the
entire country
which is scorched
by the flames
of divided
opinions.
When
the present
UPA govt.
put in place
a group of
ministers
(GoM) to examine
the "sensitive" issue
of reservation
for SC/STs
in the private
sector it
has cast
a distressing
spell on
the
industrial
heavyweights
like Rahul
Bajaj
and the unity
exhibited
by organisations
like the
Confederation
of Indian
Industries
(CII), Federation
of Indian
Chambers
of Commerce & Industry
(FICCI) and
Associated
Chambers
of commerce
and Industry
of India
(ASSOCHAM)
against the
panel is
remarkable.
QUOTA
KILLS
PRIVATE
SECTOR ?
What a
fascinating
way to
exhibit
the strength
of their
unity
against
the interest
of the
weaker
sections
of
India.
Had they
displayed
the same
unity
of purpose
in opposing
MNCs,
WTO, share-market
manipulators,
defaulters
etc.
it would
have
served the
nation's
interest
much
better.
Rahul Bajaj
first
threatened the
Maharashtra
Govt.
that if it enacted
a resolution
favouring
reservation
in
the private
sector
he
may shift
his industrial
empire
elsewhere.
He
says
reservations will
kill
the private
sector.
Rahul
Bajaj
has
inherited
only
the
empire
of
his
grandfather
and
not
the
legacy
of
his
grandfather's
gandhian
values
about
the
inclusion
of
the
larger
world.
EXPERTS
IN COPYING
Let
us see
the performance
sheet of
Indian industry
and its
overall contribution
to India's
development.
It
was the
British East-India
Company that
laid the
foundation of
industrial development.
After "independence" the growth of industry can
mainly be attributed to joint ventures, as we had no capacity
or requisite technology
to do so on our own. Today's major industrial houses have
grown through tie-ups ÑÊlike
TVS with Suzuki,
Hero with
Honda, Tata
with various
groups. The Bajaj
group itself
was no exception
to this and had
trade relationships
with Piaggio
of Italy in
1960 and later
with Kawasaki.
Moreover, to
safeguard the interest
of Indian industrialists,
successive govts.
have been
adopting the
policy of joint
ventures and helped
it from becoming
directly exposed
to competition from
the big MNCs
in which case
the Indian
industrial groups
would have
definitely collapsed.
Over
the years
we have
perfected the
act of
copying instead
of finding
our own
innovative and
indigenous methodologies
of production.
Until the
year 2001,
almost all
the big
industrial houses
were only
producing the
copied version
of their
respective partner's
products.
The
industrial empires
well equipped
with almost
all imported
m/c from
other countries
with the
help of
huge concessions,
quotas and
rebates have
only been
playing second
fiddle in
the overall
arena of
industrial products
design, research
and development.
Over
the years
the brilliant
employees have
mastered the
art of
copying, be
it manufacturing,
medicinal plants,
electronic appliances,
consumables etc.
Let Rahul
Bajaj count
on his
finger tips
the truly
remarkable achievements
of his
group in
the field
of vehicle-
making methodologies,
research and
development areas
or for
that matter
the substantial
contribution of
any Indian
industrial corporation
in the
field of
science and
technology. On
the other
hand Americans,
Japanese and
European industrialists
always aim
for better
service, quality
products at
economic prices
and they
invest more
on R&D
and new techniques
that aim to
achieve more
innovative methods
of production.
AMERICAN
MODEL
The
greatest discovery
Indian industries
have so
far made
is finding
new means
of selling
the imitated
product ÑÊalluring
consumes through
such marketing
ploys as easy
instalment financing.
And then labeling
the brand
name of an
Indian company
on the product
designed and developed
in other countries,
selling them
in the domestic
market only
after paying
huge royalty
amounts.
For
over 50
years American
and Europe
industrial giants
whom we
have been
copying and
imitating, have
remarkably made
it possible
for us
to see
that a
govt. and
the people
if they
have so
decided, can
solve any
problem of
the worst
and most
complex nature.
They have
visibly proved
this in
the case
of the
racially discriminated
people of
their countries.
If we
juxtapose the
problem of
racial discrimination
in the
US and
caste discrimination
in India
then we
have to
accept the
fact that
in the
US they
have been
able to
raise the
socio-economic status
of Blacks
substantially with
the help
of their
country's policies.
It is
the American
model we
should copy
instead of
what we
have been
doing.
A
MERE COPY
CAT
The
state of
our industry
is quite
different from
what it
has been
systematically
projected
in media.
Innovations is
not part
of our
industrial culture.
Instead it
is merely
acting as
a copy
cat of
the industrial
products designed
and developed
by the
American, European
and the
Japanese. We
end up
paying huge
royalties for
re-assembling,
marking
their products
in our
country. We
don't solve
the problem
of our
people. We
have merely
mastered the
techniques of
imitation. If
American corporations
withdraw from
India our
corporate growth
will be
reduced by
25 to
50%. If
the European
companies operating
in India
and other
foreign business
interests also
withdraw, then
perhaps 70
to 80%
of our
industrial activity
would come
to a
halt.
DISMAL
PERFORMANCE
Our
industrial
products
come from
the designed
and development
stable of
the US,
European,
Japan
etc. and
we put
here the
tag of
the local
Indian company
for selling
purposes.
Over
the year
our industries
are merely
acting
as
the marketing
label
for
the foreign
products.
Why
has Indian
industry
(where
there
is
no reservation
of jobs
for SC/STs)
performed
so
dismally
all
these
years?
It has
failed
to
produce
international
quality
goods
at affordable
prizes.
Their
products
cannot
stand
up
to market
competition
against
any of
the MNCs.
Are reservations
to blame
for this?
Our industrialists
always
have
enough
reasons
to complain ÑÊeither
govt. policies
are not
conducive
or there is a
hell-of-a-lot
of red-tapism,
as well
as against political
interventions, the Chinese
product
dumping issue,
union problems,
or that
the stock
market don't
recognize
value.
Though these
gripes
may have
a small element
of truth
in them,
they often
choose to conveniently
forget that
many problems
are of
their
own making. Several
companies
have
been extremely
successful in destroying
value,
purely through
poor management
or dubious
strategies.
Are reservations
to blame
for this?
PROGRESS
OF AMERICAN
BLACKS
In
America
and
Europe,
the
success
achieved
by
the
racially
discriminated
Blacks
in
various
fields
like
the
movies,
sports,
commerce
and
industry,
academics,
administration,
the
military
etc.
wouldn't
have
really
been
possible
had
it
not
been
for
the
properly
laid
down
policies
and
the
remarkable
implementation
of
those
policies.
One
of
the
important
factors
that
has
ushered
a
new
epoch
in
the
lives
of
Blacks
is
the
change
in
the
attitude
of
their
fellow
countrymen,
industry
and
the
political
leadership
as
well.
For
the
sake
of
development
of
the
US
economy
and
the
nation
they
invested
their
faith
and
will
in
the
development
of
those
on
whom
previously
they
had
inflicted
inhuman
socio-economic
norms
in
sharp
contact
to
what
we
find
in
India.
By
doing
this
the
US
has
achieved
a
dual
purpose
(1)
The
development
of
Blacks,
(2)
they
have
harnessed
the
potential
of
these
people
for
the
development
of
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